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做音乐治疗师“Own” Music?

通过 金伯利2011年6月29日 · 32 评论

本周,我收到了Maven读者Brid的精彩评论。他写了:

Hi 金伯利,我’m perusing your site with particular interest at the moment. I’m actually a ‘nearly’ graduated occupational therapy student (just three weeks from the finish line!) and I’m also a keen 音乐ian – I have a MA in performance and a lifetime of playing, composing, performing and 教导ing.

I’d be interested in your thoughts 上 other disciplines using 音乐 as part of their therapy – is this something you support (given the therapeutic value of 音乐) or do you feel other disciplines would muck it up without specialized training?

我目前正在与一个患有精神疾病的客户一起组织一个音乐小组–我正在以社交/技能建设/治疗倾向进行组织,让参与者体验音乐的许多不同方面(因此,他们经常积极地聆听,放松,唱歌,华尔兹舞,手抖,锻炼和谈论音乐)。我想我的目标是让参与者体验音乐,认识到音乐适合每个人,发展注意力,记忆力和协调能力,并可能鼓励他们在日常生活中自觉地融入音乐。我几乎是一位合格的职业治疗师,并且相信这些课程对客户有好处-手部锻炼非常有趣-完全具有感染力!

So I wonder how you (and others) as 音乐 therapists feel about OTs or SLTs or psychologists or nurses or doctors running 音乐 groups or using 音乐 as therapy?

虽然 我在评论部分回答了Brid 在那篇文章中’s a question worth an entire blog post. Brid is not the first person to ask whether 音乐治疗师s are “okay” with other professionals using 音乐 in their work.

简短的答案是:当然可以!!!音乐治疗师绝不是“own” 音乐. We understand the power of 音乐 and think it’当其他专业人员将其整合到他们的工作中时,这真是太好了。

但这是否意味着那些专业人员“doing 音乐疗法.” Well…no.

When I run a 音乐 and exercise group, am I “doing OT” or “doing PT” because I’我使用了许多相同的练习吗?没有。

当我进行口腔运动和呼吸运动以增强帕金森氏症患者的言语能力时’s, does that mean I’m “做言语治疗?” No.

当我在进行小组治疗时使用主动聆听技巧时,这是否意味着我’m “doing counseling?” Absolutely not.

So…then what’s the difference?

不同之处在于,上面列出的每个专业人员都经过培训,以遵守并遵守其领域的业务范围和道德守则。我们对自己的实践背后的理论,什么行得通,为什么行得通以及如何在各种情况下最好地结合起来有深刻的理解。

In the case of 音乐治疗师s, we have a solid foundation in 音乐 playing, 音乐 theory, composition, improvisation, and 音乐 psychology. In addition, we are trained in psychology and the sciences and learn how our brains and bodies respond to 音乐 and rhythm.

A 音乐治疗师 not 上 ly understands the art of 音乐 as therapy…还有它的科学。利用这些知识,我们可以做令人惊奇的事情。

我欢迎任何人–as long as they are working within their 拥有 training and scope of practice–uses 音乐 in their health, healing, and educational work. I say this with an understanding and a guarantee that how they use 音乐 won’t match what a board-certified 音乐治疗师 can do.

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南希·戴维斯(Nancy Davis) 2011年6月29日下午4:52

Yes, I DO mind when other professionals use 音乐 in their therapy sessions without a 音乐治疗师 as a co-therapist. You will never catch me building a splint, administering or prescribing medication,taking somebody’血压或其他许多我没有训练做的事情。令我感到困扰的是其他治疗师,是的,特别是OTs感到他们受过训练以在会议中使用音乐。我最近刚与OTR进行了讨论,她决定她要“teach” the trombone to a mutual client of 我们的 with autism as part of his SI menu. Really????Never bothered to consult with me. BTW her lessons consisted of him blowing as hard as he could through the mouthpiece. The trombone (which had been a decent instrument) was banged up because she did not even know how to put it together!This blurring of lines can and WILL cause loss of jobs/work for 音乐治疗师s. I have been a 音乐治疗师 for 31 years, I have seen it happen. Why should they pay for your services if the OT is using 音乐 already? Many administrators don’看不到区别。我说“OT不在我们的厨房里,我保证不会在您的厨房里”.

拉切尔·诺曼(Rachelle Norman) 2011年6月29日下午7:11

Great post! I agree that it is important for 音乐治疗师s to acknowledge that we aren’只有那些通过音乐使用音乐的人。从业务范围的角度考虑这一点很有帮助,因为有时其他专业人员’ scopes of practice overlap with 我们的. We share techniques with other professionals, too –我鼓励与客户进行特定的总体运动方式,但永远不要称其为PT。我也使用辅导技巧,但我不是辅导员。但是,我们应该作为合作的资源和合作伙伴。南希’长号的故事清楚地说明了这一点。

金伯利 2011年6月30日,上午9:55

@南希我想你和我实际上是一致的。您提供的示例(例如,夹板,药物等)属于MT-BC实践范围之外的所有事物…因此,这样做对我们来说是不道德的。对我来说,只要专业人员在其职责范围内工作–and doesn’t call what they do “music therapy”–I am perfectly comfortable with them using 音乐 and see nothing wrong with it. How they use 音乐 will be different than how I, as a trained 音乐治疗师, use 音乐. Now, it sounds like that OTR was NOT working within her scope–从您的故事看来,她根本没有资格使用长号,因此她应该坚持使用kazoo或其他东西。我也会感到沮丧! 〜金伯利

豪尔赫·奥乔亚 2011年7月1日晚上9:39

女士你好,

Interesting posts. Just wanted to say that I am an 职业治疗师/drummer-percussionist/drum circle facilitator. I actually correct people when they refer to what I do as 音乐疗法. I refer to it as FUNctional Drumming. I am actually a mental health Head Start OT and also 拥有 my 拥有 part-time business . I use drumming to address attention span, turn taking, sharing, self-control, etc.

OTR豪尔赫·奥乔亚(Jorge Ochoa)
职业治疗师
Tamborhythms.com
[email protected]
210-289-7100
http://www.youtube.com/user/TamboRhythms1
Facebook- TamboRhythms:通过节奏实现健康

凯富尔顿 2011年7月5日,下午1:46

尼斯的帖子和澄清!–这可能是一个敏感的话题!我通常会选择轻松自在的路线。一世’m fairly confident that my clients and potential clients understand my expertise, so I love it when they join in or offer their 拥有 音乐 in a supportive way.

同时我能理解南希’对长号感到沮丧。我们一直在教育。

我喜欢Kim在您撰写的其他专业中的应用程序的清晰性!
.- = 凯富尔顿的最后一个博客..老年人真正想要什么? =-。

金伯利 2011年7月6日,上午10:18

谢谢,吉!这对于所有各方来说都是一个敏感的话题,我认为我们对此的感觉在很大程度上取决于我们的经验。 〜金伯利

塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle) 2011年7月6日,上午10:31

我当然知道为什么南希会被她的旧约同事如此感动’s actions. They were unprofessional and a bit clueless, too, it seems. However, if administrators and organizations are not understanding either the difference between MTs and OTs OR they are not recognizing the value of hiring board certified 音乐治疗师s, then I believe that is not the fault of OT’s or any other discipline. That is fault of 音乐治疗师s.

(唐’还没有鞭打我。 。 。 !) 这里’s why I say that . . . . It would be nice but it is not the job of your colleagues outside of 音乐疗法 to educate the public (and potential hiring institutions) about the benefits of 音乐疗法. That is the job of an MT and your professional associations. No 上 e else can (or probably will) do that for you. Nor should you want them to . . . . You are the 上 es who know your training, qualifications, credentials and the research that supports your work better than anyone else. The rest of us would just offer a surface explanation of what you know in depth.

As a Licensed Professional Counselor who is not a 音乐治疗师, I appreciate you taking the time to write this post. I would never describe myself as having the training / experience / identity of a 音乐治疗师. I certainly appreciate what you do and the training and wisdom that you bring to your work.

我经常鼓励客户在音乐中寻求安慰和安慰。我有时鼓励他们用音乐放松和娱乐;我向一些客户建议,使用音乐是一种与不舒服的感觉联系的方式。我用即兴创作“games and activities” to support team building or to highlight particular takeaways in trainings that I provide; likewise, I use similar 音乐al exercises when conducting in Playback Theatre and Theatre of Oppression; and, I often suggest that writing 音乐 can be a great way to express feelings. But, no 上 e would ever describe what I am doing as 音乐疗法. Music is just the tool.

In my non-MT way of thinking, 音乐 is just another language to be used 通过 anyone –如法语,绘画或舞蹈。我了解,有很多方法可以帮助任何给定的客户实现其目标– through traditional counseling, through 音乐 or art therapy, etc. And, each well-trained professional from his / her 拥有 discipline will bring a unique way of strategically doing the work at hand.
.- = 塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle)的最后一个博客..Web上的WOW(系列)–当然可以! =-。

南希·戴维斯(Nancy Davis) 2011年7月6日,下午3:17

Well Tamara, please let me be the 上 e to educate you. In my opinion, the way you are utilizing 音乐 in your therapy sessions is outside your scope of practice and you are not qualified to do it , no matter what you label it. If you feel that your clients would benefit from such techniques you should be referring them to a Board Certified Music Therapist.

Yes, 音乐 is the tool. And it is a powerful tool that needs to be used 通过 someone who is trained to do so. In actuality,you are no different than the OTR offering up trombone lessons without any knowledge or training. Do you consult with a 音乐治疗师 before using these techniques in your professional therapy sessions?

Music therapists have too often sacrificed our uniqueness and our power which is the 音乐 to other therapists just to keep the peace and play nice. The way that Tamara is using 音乐 in her sessions is a perfect example, she is not just playing 音乐 上 her iPod in the background of her therapy sessions. She is using 音乐 干预措施 to accomplish individualized goals within a therapeutic relationship. Does this sound familiar MTBCs?

We can (and do) educate other professions, administrators, and consumers of services but, in my opinion we need to stand up and defend what is 我们的. Otherwise
we have 上 ly 我们的elves to blame (as Tamara pointed out )when someone makes a statement like “音乐只是任何人都可以使用的另一种语言,例如法语,绘画或舞蹈。”。南希·伦岑·戴维斯(MT-BC)

塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle) 2011年7月6日,下午5:14

南希,我’m not sure if I am understanding you correctly . . . . Are you saying that tools are proprietary? I do not provide 音乐疗法 for my clients any more than I provide massage therapy for my partner. While I would expect the general public to possibly confuse 上 e for the other, I do expect a colleague to recognize the difference.

I do and have consulted with 音乐治疗师s. And, I would still maintain that I am not a 音乐治疗师 nor have I attempted to provide 音乐疗法. What I have done is use a client’追求该客户目标的兴趣或爱好–经常在那个客户’s request.

Simply having or using the tool i.e. 音乐 does not mean that 音乐疗法 has taken place, Nancy. And, I think you are shortchanging the body of work that constitutes 音乐疗法 if you believe that an “intervention”构成疗法。

I supervise new therapists that often confuse those two. They enter the clinical hour with their bag of tools . . . their therapeutic 干预措施 and in the beginning they fall flat 上 their faces because they have failed to apply them within the theoretical context with which they were useful. In effect, they were bags of “tricks”当脱离上下文使用时,会提供非常不同的结果。

I know very little about the theoretical constructs and strategies of 音乐疗法. I wouldn’t have a clue how to use 音乐 to retrain a brain or 教导 a deaf child to talk. But what I do know is that if my client is interested in rap 音乐 and that is a way to engage him, build rapport with him, help him explore his 拥有 feelings and express his 拥有 experiences . . . that’s a tool that a good parent can use, a good 教导er can use, and a good counselor can use. And, I do.

我不’t really think that you mean to be saying that 音乐治疗师s should “own” the right to use 音乐. But, I’我不确定您在说该行应存在的位置。一世’很高兴与您进行对话。 。 。 。如果我们可以’如果不弄清楚如何进行这些困难的对话,那么我们几乎无法期望客户做任何其他的事情。

并且,感谢金伯利在这里主持我们的对话。感谢您为进行生动有趣的对话创造空间。
.- = 塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle)的最后一个博客..Web上的WOW(系列)–当然可以! =-。

拉切尔 2011年7月6日,晚上8:19

哇,这确实是一个困难的话题。我认为Tamara有两个关键点:首先,音乐疗法不仅仅是我们使用的技术。我们都知道,只要给别人一个“relaxation CD”不同于为放松生活提供音乐,根据个人需要创作或录制放松音乐等。音乐治疗师会在计划疗程时以及作为客户的那一刻做出各种临床决策’需要和响应决定。这些决定中的许多决定(如果不是大多数的话)都是基于音乐的(例如节奏,键,歌曲选择,伴奏乐器/风格)。这种临床专业知识是定义我们的一部分。其次,我们确实拥有自己的理论基础,可以帮助我们确定要做出的决定。我们在学校学到的许多理论至少部分是来自其他领域的,这有点棘手–有了这些,似乎我们对音乐技术的使用是使我们与众不同的主要方面。这就是为什么我找到爱根’以音乐为中心的理论很有帮助:它使我们在使我们与众不同的基础上有更多的扎根– the 音乐. I know, then, that what I offer as a 音乐治疗师 has a unique value –我只需要继续尝试向公众解释这些区别。
.- = 拉切尔的最后一个博客..歌曲焦点:“ Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie黄色圆点比基尼” =-。

金伯利 2011年7月7日,上午9:45

感谢塔玛拉(Tamara),南希(Nancy)和拉切尔(Rachelle)进行的这种引人入胜的对话。我个人坚持我的原始声明–that 音乐治疗师s do not 拥有 音乐. Additionally, I still believe that how we as trained 音乐治疗师s use 音乐 is different than how non-MTs use 音乐. It is up to MTs to educate about the distinction (which all of you mentioned!) and 我不’t think it diminishes our work at all. I feel our work as 音乐治疗师s can easily hold up to the work of other professionals who use 音乐 as a tool. @Nancy I read Tamara’的例子有所不同。我不’t think she’完全在做音乐干预。我觉得她’正在使用音乐进行咨询干预–有些只是对她的客户的建议。 @Rachelle谢谢您对艾根书的建议!一世’我需要将其添加到我的“to read”列表-令人发指的讨论! 〜金伯利

艾丽莎·威尔金斯(Alyssa Wilkins) 2011年7月7日,上午10:05

我同意,这是一个很难的话题。但是正如塔玛拉所说,有必要讨论这种微妙的事情。现在,我只是获得我的大学学位的学生音乐治疗师,但是,我很吸引南希’的论点。塔玛拉我不’t believe MT-BCs “own”他们的音乐,但是,您在第一个评论中提供的示例“interventions” you are providing for your client are very similar to the type of 干预措施 we provide in our MT sessions. I agree that 干预措施 to not make a session, the whole point of a session is to take the raw state of the client that day and adapt 每一个thing you do to their current need. But 干预措施 are the first things we learn as an MT, and as we adapt them for each client they are “ours”。就像您对客户或会议进行的任何干预一样,“yours”.

音乐疗法正在成为一种更广泛接受的疗法,我知道很多人’对MT的奇妙价值进行了教育,但似乎您是。我认识的每一个MT都强烈主张他们的专业广为人知和认可,而您使用音乐的方式会损害我们的能力。就像你说的那样’t understand how what you are using would be used as 音乐疗法. For the examples you gave, I believe, you are not doing any harm to your client or reversing what an MT-BC may be doing, but if we let all professionals use our basic 干预措施 and they use them incorrectly they may be stunting a client’的进步或消除他们去看一位训练有素的音乐治疗师的愿望。

I agree, as has been said 通过 many comment thus far, that other professionals using 音乐 can actually be an asset to MT-BCs because they see 上 a minor level how influential 音乐 can be. But I also think it is important that if they continue using 干预措施 that they consult with an actual MT-BC to make sure that it is the best activity for the client, or even better refer them to an actual Music Therapist.

I think collaborative environments are the best answer to this problem. The more we educate others about the value of 音乐 AND Certified Music Therapists, the more they will understand what is within our scope of practice and theirs.

-艾丽莎

塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle) 2011年7月7日,下午1:18

Thanks for continuing the conversation here. I am happy to learn from each of you. Alyssa, 我不’t necessarily think that 上 e discipline can stake claim to all of their clinical 干预措施 and I would certainly include the use of 音乐 among those. Perhaps you disagree?

For example, I would not choose to withhold active or reflective listening from your use. Nor would I ask you to refrain from using paradoxical intent or summarizing or even imagery or progressive relaxation. Those are all tools and 干预措施 that I was trained to use and suspect that you, too, were trained to use at least some of them.

I actually do understand that 音乐 is a powerful tool in the hands of a 音乐治疗师. And, I also understand that 音乐 is a powerful tool in the hands of an untrained client. What I note as being different between the two is the strategic use of that tool in the hands of a 音乐治疗师. And, it’该策略(基于他/她的培训经验研究)是两者之间的区别因素。

同样,我很感激20 // 20的相机和普通大众可能无法区分我对客户端的使用’s interests in 音乐 as an adjunct to the therapy that I provide vs. a 音乐治疗师’s use of 音乐 with that same client. However, a 音乐治疗师’音乐的使用将是我所没有的核心重点和战略重点。即使我们选择相同的音乐而恰好提供相同的方向。 。 。我相信重点和临床原理会有差异–两者之间可能有些重叠。但是,任何精神卫生学科之间可能都存在重叠–心理学家,社会工作者,咨询师,成瘾专家,艺术创作治疗师等。

In my mind, the bigger hindrance to the growth and recognition of 音乐治疗师s is not coming from within the mental health field. in fact, most of the non-MT professionals that I know, like me, welcome MTs 上 the scene. The difficulty shows up when the general public (housed in our institutions and community agencies) don’t know about or recognize the value in the body of work and professionals who provide 音乐疗法. And, that, comes right back to a marketing issue.

As 音乐治疗师s continue to accrue and present the growing body of literature that supports your work . . . and as 音乐治疗师s are increasingly trained in the business of marketing (Did 金伯利 say “advocacy?”) your work, these imaginary turf battles will give way to a greater presence in the work force. And, those of you that are most creative can, if you choose, pave the way for your colleagues 通过 stepping outside of those institutional boxes and creating third spaces for your 拥有 businesses.

金伯利,我’下周整整一周进行自杀预防培训。因此,如果对话继续进行,我’ll be stepping out for a week. But, I will be back! Thanks again . . . to all of you . . . for allowing my voice to join 你的 in this dialogue. It’s an important 上 e for me to hear and consider . . . the implications for counseling as well as 音乐疗法.
.- = 塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle)的最后一个博客..非专业的照片令人遗憾,而且持续了很长时间 =-。

约翰 2011年7月7日,下午1:44

Wow, I did not know that 音乐治疗师s 拥有ed 音乐. Which 音乐疗法 association do I register my 音乐 with? That’s a joke 通过 the way but 上 e to bring perhaps a fresh perspective into this argument. First, I am not a 音乐治疗师. What I do as a day job required 130 credits of graduate work. just in case you might diminish my academic prowess. I am also not a professional 音乐an but I write 音乐 and produce it.

Perhaps its old age but as my bones grow old I learn from mistakes, at least some of them. I am hoping that I might be able to help here at least a bit 通过 教导ing a it of what I have learned. There is a wonderful quote: “不反对我们的人就是为了我们”. Trust me, I am for you. I respect what 音乐治疗师s do and I encourage all of you to further develop your profession. That being said, don’画线要这么快。这些界限变成了使您脱离与其他学科富有成果的关系的trench沟。我推荐一些阅读“禅宗与摩托车保养艺术”. It’关于柏拉图式的对话“Phaedrus”。我是天主教徒,但是这本书并不是真的关于禅宗或摩托车保养。相信我,阅读它,这可能有助于加深我对画线的理解。

我了解您想保护草皮,但如果您想受到重视,就必须相信自己所做的事情很重要,而您不这样做’真的不必捍卫它。如果某物有价值,它将自行出售。这可能需要时间,但是人们会开始意识到它。您举行的会议以及您在社区中的交流是一件很棒的事。但是要意识到,像我这样的人支持您的工作,并且参与某些相同的事情,但这并不能使我们成为敌人。我发现音乐治疗和金伯利(顺便说一句在她的评论中表现出最大的智慧)的原因之一是我对音乐和大脑的兴趣。

为您准备的禅宗禅书。三个人站立看旗子。有人说:“The Flag is Moving”, the second: “The wind is moving”. But the 3rd: “The mind is moving”.

Hope that helps 🙂 And 通过 the way, my 音乐 belongs to me and anyone who wishes to enjoy it even if it is theraputic for them 🙂 Shalom!

约翰 2011年7月7日,下午1:57

我刚刚花了最后一个小时才想出一个合理的评论,由于某种原因,我的计算机启动了它。也许简单是最好的。首先,我强烈建议您阅读:“禅与摩托车维修艺术”。我是天主教徒,但这本书不是关于这本书的’的标题,不是真的。它’关于不要让您随意绘制的线条定义您。引用另一本好书:“不反对我们的人就是为了我们”.

越过溪流,开箱即用,不要’如此迅速地定义您的工作以至于成为限制真正进展的墙。

3名男子站着看着旗帜。有人说“the flag is moving”。另一个人说,不,“the wind is moving”. But the 3rd, “the mind is moving”.

艾丽莎·威尔金斯(Alyssa Wilkins) 2011年7月7日,下午3:33

我同意所有人所说的话,最重要的是金伯利。我不相信我们正在尝试制造草皮战争,但是,我们正在尝试建立关于如何将音乐用作治疗手段的领域。对于所有使用音乐作为工具来帮助他们的客户的专业人士,我都很满意,许多MT策略与您提到的心理学家,辅导员等重叠。问题出在未受过如何使用音乐训练的人们挥洒专业力量时。塔玛拉我同意您像约翰一样理解并支持音乐疗法,您不是我关心的人。

关于推广音乐疗法,也许我只是生活在一个进步的地区,但不仅音乐疗法在我的住所广为人知,而且非常受人尊敬。也许我很幸运,因为我属于神经病学音乐治疗领域,而且我遇到的人都精通科学与音乐的融合。每个职业都需要支持以发挥作用’认为我们应该在精神健康等其他领域扼杀音乐创造力,但重要的是,音乐治疗和涉及音乐的治疗方法的界限不要模糊。

南希·伦岑·戴维斯(MT-BC) 2011年7月8日,下午2:17

Tamara,first let me apologize for assuming anything. I should have asked first if you were consulting with or being supervised 通过 a board certified 音乐治疗师. Since you say you do consult with an MT-BC, that makes a big difference in my opinion of your use of 音乐 in your sessions.

I never said that 音乐 belongs solely to 音乐治疗师s. What I do say is that 音乐疗法 belongs to board certified 音乐治疗师s. I will not EVER change my opinion that 音乐 干预措施 to accomplish individualized goals within a therapeutic relationship (which,btw is THE terminology used in the very definition of MT 上 the AMTA website) should be used 上 ly 通过 音乐治疗师s or under the direct supervision or consult with an MT-BC. I do not believe, as others here seem to, that as long as other professionals are not terming what they do as “music therapy”然后他们想要的任何干预“borrow”很好它不是。我可能还会补充说自己,我会遵循相同的标准,例如,我没有接受过GIM的培训,并且有时候我的客户要求我对他们这样做。我已将他们推荐给训练有素的GIM从业人员。我们的客户/患者/学生应该得到他们所支付的东西。这是正确和道德的。

堪萨斯大学的一些专业人士,音乐治疗师和领导者对我进行了培训和教育。我已经担任音乐治疗师31年了。我在四个不同州制定了音乐治疗计划,我曾在私立和州立精神病院,发展中残疾人的私立和州立机构,学区,护理机构和私人住宅中担任治疗团队的成员。我从不回答职位的广告,我自己开发了职位。在过去的15年中,我一直从事私人执业,转介次数超出了我的能力。我在这场战斗中没有另一只狗。我不想增加案件数量,推销自己,我的技术,书籍,DVD,CD,网站或任何其他赚钱的生意。我只是爱,尊重和相信我选择的职业。我认为,如果重要的话,有时间站起来并划清界限。如果你可以的话’站起来保护自己的生命’的工作,为什么要这么做呢?我相信音乐的力量。我相信音乐治疗师会与我们的AMTA和CBMT的理事机构合作,这是保持最高实践水平和道德规范不变的路线,不会被那些认为“anybody”可以使用iPod的人能够以专业的治疗关系使用和理解音乐的力量。他们不是。这不是一场小小的争夺战,这是我们的职业。

塔玛拉(Tamara),您举了一个例子,给您的伴侣按摩,并宣称这当然不是按摩疗法。同意但是,让我问您一个问题:既然您显然知道如何进行良好的背部按摩,那么在哪种情况下,您应该适合在一个疗程中对一位客户/患者进行按摩?毕竟,每个人都喜欢良好的背摩擦,’不称其为按摩疗法,他们可能会要求您做,这只是您可以使用的另一种工具。

有人吗

塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle) 2011年7月12日,晚上10:53

南希,我 suspect we agree 上 many more things than we disagree including parts of 音乐疗法 and counseling. I can appreciate your passion, your seasoned experiences, and your desire to protect both your profession and your clients. Thanks for the vigorous discussion!
.- = 塔玛拉·索特(Tamara G.Suttle)的最后一个博客..营销私人执业的5种临床技能 =-。

这是一个意见。 2011年8月23日,下午4:24

我拥有大学学位,一生都弹钢琴。我也可能活了– in experience – 每一个 therapist who claims the necessity for a 音乐疗法 degree. All these qualification are utter rubbish. Those who have lived the experience –像脑部受伤/头部受伤–比合格产品更重要。

这是一个意见。 2011年8月23日,下午4:27

我再说一遍:不是“every” 音乐al therapist, but certainly many. People who have real life experience are likely a bit threatening to the academic professional who cannot relate to the actual experience of their patients (vs. someone like me who has).

金伯利 2011年8月30日下午12:45

I appreciate your input and do agree that there is a lot of value to what personal experience can contribute. And there is definitely a great service that someone like you who is living with what you are living with can provide. However, trained 音乐治疗师s are able to work with a wide variety of populations and 上 a wide variety of needs, from hospice to autism to medical to mental health to rehab to education…和更多!因此,一定水平的培训,不仅是音乐家,而且还有治疗师和科学家的培训,都是绝对必要的。如果你’re interested in more information about what 音乐疗法 really can do, I invite you check out the American 音乐疗法 Association website at http://www.musictherapy.org 〜金伯利

辛西娅 2011年12月19日下午9:12

Often therapist do like 音乐 but few are not. Mostly, they do 音乐 to uplift their minds when it become to drain and also to release from burdom. I do like 音乐 when I do blog commenting to unwind my mind and insert words or phrase that is useful to your job.

金伯利 2013年2月13日,下午7:11

很棒的博客文章– sorry I’m late to the party. I use this as a reference for 2 OT students who were questioning using 音乐 in their treatment plans.

LASAC硕士Alan Kovin 2014年4月18日上午7:18

我们正在创建全生命社区,这是一个社区中心,它将为广大社区和恢复社区提供各种资源。与音乐相关的资源将成为我们提供产品的重要组成部分,其中包括音乐教学,录制和制作课程。几年来,我一直是音乐家,老师和大师级瘾君子顾问。在我们的康复小组中,我们不仅计划利用上述音乐课程,而且计划利用歌曲创作,歌词创作,击鼓,音乐欣赏,甚至在有能力的情况下利用音乐来形成合奏。我们将音乐作为一种治疗工具,并不认为我们已经预算有限的计划需要‘music therapist’ when this counselor actually has much more 音乐al and counseling experience with our target population than most licensed 音乐治疗师s do. However, we will not be inviting alzheimer patients or any other challenged clients outside of our experience for these same 音乐 therapeutic experiences. What I am getting at is that often times in therapeutic situations, either there is no black and white rules and/or, there is often evidence which offers viable alternatives, as in this case.

金伯利 2014年4月23日,中午12:00

Hello Alan. Thank you for your comment. It sounds like you are providing a valuable service. As with any of us trained to work in the education and health care industry, it is our ethical responsibility to work within our training, experience, and scope of practice, which is sounds like you are doing. If you ever want to explore other ways 音乐 can be incorporated into your practice, I encourage you to reach out and consult with a board certified 音乐治疗师. You do not necessarily need to have a 音乐治疗师 上 staff, but it may enhance what you offer to have a 音乐疗法-informed perspective. You can find us at http://www.cbmt.org。祝你好运! 〜金伯利

奥黛丽·韦斯(Audrey Weiss) 2015年1月29日,晚上8:56

我刚刚读完这个博客很感兴趣。我是一所与自闭症儿童一起工作的学校的儿科职业治疗师。我也碰巧弹吉他,并和我的学生们一起唱歌。我注意到,一旦我开始将吉他的和弦弹奏成规则的节拍,我就会引起我的学生的注意,并获得更好的目光接触。然后他们会更好地遵循指示–在这种情况下,请登录我的小组,并在音乐中模仿粗略和精细的动作。所有这些学生都接受职业治疗,这个OT音乐小组致力于解决他们的OT目标,包括改善注意力,眼神交流和运动技能。我注意到唱歌还可以提高语言输出和社交技能(自闭症儿童面临两个巨大挑战)。
有时我们会唱一首虚构的过渡歌曲,以帮助学生从课堂过渡到理疗室时感到平静。是我使用音乐的方式“kosher” according to 音乐治疗师s. I agree with 约翰 that “music” is not 拥有ed 通过 anyone. It is as old as the hills, practically. I am very interested in increasing my knowledge of how OTs can use 音乐 to help reach therapeutic OT goals. Any suggestions?? Audrey

布鲁斯·金 2015年1月31日上午10:58

Obviously, humans share the wide and deep personal convictions for the power of our 拥有 音乐. And carefully sharing with others how to use that power, lies at the essence of what we learn to do as therapists. Amazingly gifted amateur and professional 音乐ians, and dedicated healers and 教导ers change lives 每一个 day through 音乐. So, its perhaps shameful, even dangerous to summarily deny the existence of these individuals. Its impossible too, to deny that client harm exists in the assumption that letters listed after 上 e’名称绝对保证了安全性和有效性。

Persons with extraordinary capabilities can be seen in stadiums, street corners, bars, and shelters; as well as in churches, hospitals, universities, and corporate boards. Once identified (and we know who they are), they should be included, nurtured, and supported, with all efforts and resources shifted to safely get THAT person in front of THAT client in need. Also, a reciprocal 教导ing arrangement within today’s current cognitive/neurological/physiological/sociological/communicative/pyscho-centric 音乐疗法 university coursework would invigorate both state-of-the-art scientific study and results-oriented field-work.

Anyone calling what they do 音乐疗法, however they spell it, should see the need to seek the absolute highest level of knowledge, and we as consumers, should also see the need and make it available for them. And, forgive the analogy, but to a person in crises, 音乐 in the hands of such an experienced and knowledgeable practitioner can be the difference between experiencing the power of a paper airplane and experiencing the power of the Space Shuttle.

麦克风 七月25,2017在1:24下午

Wow so many arguments.I am a multi licensed occupational therapist for 2 decades already.My undergrad thesis in ot is about piano playing effectiveness in improving finger dexterity and fine coordination.I used 音乐 in ot bec 每一个thing we do as we call occupations falls under ot.but first I was a full pledge 音乐ian before I was an ot.I started playing the piano at age 4.I 教导 and play the piano , violin, guitar and voice.now we don’t have to argue.I seek to be a 音乐治疗师 full pledge and they can’心理学,解剖学,音乐,生理学是一个领域,我们都拥有被称为应用科学的基础。您认为谁赢了?’相互协作,互相帮助。

迈克·阿莱扬德里亚 2017年7月25日下午1:28

Wow so many arguments.I am a multi licensed occupational therapist for 2 decades already.My undergrad thesis in ot is about piano playing effectiveness in improving finger dexterity and fine coordination.I used 音乐 in ot bec 每一个thing we do as we call occupations falls under ot.but first I was a full pledge 音乐ian before I was an ot.I started playing the piano at age 4.I 教导 and play the piano , violin, guitar and voice.now we don’t have to argue.I seek to be a 音乐治疗师 full pledge and they can’心理学,解剖学,音乐,生理学是一个领域,我们都拥有被称为应用科学的基础。您认为谁赢了?’相互协作,互相帮助。

豪尔赫·奥乔亚 2017年7月25日下午2:20

I’m a a drummer/percussionist, occupational therapist, and group drumming facilitator. I use 音乐 to engage clients in the occupations of play and social participation. Music, of course, helps with the occupations of sleep/rest as well. I am really interested 上 how drumming encourages social-emotional skills. I, however, never say that I’进行音乐疗法,并在他们这样做时纠正客户。

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